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Feb 3, 2014 - Rocky. UK Remastered Blu-ray. MGM Home Entertainment AVC. 1920x1080. Fullscreen Comparison. UK Remastered Blu-ray.
- THIS is long overdue! I was getting tired of people leaving comments on my old screenshot comparison vid complaining that it was only 720p. Well kiddies, YouTube only HAD 720p at the.
- HDTV Streaming Services: A Quality Comparison Review. Ultra HD displays providing 4 times the resolution of current HDTVs are now on the market, but there’s no native Ultra HD content to watch on them. While it’s possible that content will arrive in an updated disc format, it’s equally possible that it will arrive via streaming services.
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Taiwan. Thailand. Turkey. Ukraine. United Arab Emirates. I've looked at that site before but the caps take aaaaages to load, me likey the andreas way. But yes, y'all can see exactly what I mean about the SDR version, that it's already got a decent amount of range and the HDR version just kinda 'shifts it' into the upper ranges of the signal.
I'm sure that 3000/4000 nit caps would show yet more HDR information in turn vs SDR, but not the vast amount of difference that a 3000/4000 nit master would usually show vs a 100 nit SDR pass, if that makes sense.Either way the UHD is not an SDR friendly disc whatsoever and, judging from several comments in the main Meg thread, it's not a particularly HDR friendly disc either! I've looked at that site before but the caps take aaaaages to load, me likey the andreas way. But yes, y'all can see exactly what I mean about the SDR version, that it's already got a decent amount of range and the HDR version just kinda 'shifts it' into the upper ranges of the signal. I'm sure that 3000/4000 nit caps would show yet more HDR information in turn vs SDR, but not the vast amount of difference that a 3000/4000 nit master would usually show vs a 100 nit SDR pass, if that makes sense.Either way the UHD is not an SDR friendly disc whatsoever and, judging from several comments in the main Meg thread, it's not a particularly HDR friendly disc either!I added the BD caps.
And I would've lost that bet.PS: I didn't read your 'request' properly first because I was in a hurry. I posted a lot in the Galveston thread but real quick: that UHD is completely borked IMO. Black crush to the point of it being unwatchable. There's no debate that the standard Blu is better in my mind.
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I did notice if you crank brightness some of that BD detail comes back on the UHD though, which is interesting. Maybe someone smarter than me can do something with that, but on 'calibrated' settings the UHD is a coaster.I do appretiate the feedback.Reg.
The movie: I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked it even though 'like' may be an odd term.Reg. The dark image: You're not the first one with your opinion and you may very well be correct that the disc is just borked. I just tend to be very careful with such statements. There are discs where I would make such statements as well though: Example: (I own the IT release and that one is unwatchable indeed while the JP is just effin dark; but Galveston doesn't look like the IT - not on my setup)Some thoughts: For one I am watching in a completely darkened room, with front projection and in SDR.
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As I said, I had to raise the HDR slider of my Panasonic because with my usual -3 setting it was unwatchable for me as well. But I had to raise it only to the default setting 0. It was still very dark then, but watchable. There we go then, it's exactly as I said. It's not like the 3000/4000 caps don't contain moar HDRs because they do, but when you need to resolve 2000 nits worth of HDR just to retain more or less the same highlight detail as the 100 nit version then you need some seriously good mapping to get anything like a decent image out of it, e.g.BDUHD @ 2000I forced Apple TV into HDR10 mode and checked some shots from The Meg on my LG B8 OLED. It looks EXTREMELY blown out and clipped, but turning on dynamic tone mapping brings back all the details from 4000 nits screenshots. I was looking for more Galveston opinions this morning, found a useless one on avforums (stating there's no black crush), but also this one incl.
BD and UHD caps:And just looking at these two caps there (the BD cap in particular):I'm really not convinced that the BD is supposed to be correct reg. The darkness (it also depends on where you're coming from: UHD cap or BD cap first). The BD looks elevated to my eyes (let alone the poor compression).
As I said initially, something in between may be correct though since the UHD IS.ing dark.I also took a look at the UHD caps on my OLED phone and it is unwatchable there indeed. But my phone is basically unusable in regard to (judging) black levels.I'd really love to see the iTunes HDR version mentioned in the Galveston thread.EDIT:For what it's worth.Same cap @100 nits (above is 100) plus the native cap:So AFAICT the 0,0,0 black crush is definitely inherent to the source and not just caused by the SDR conversion.
I took the HDR cap with a setting that (with the help of Deciazulado) proved to provide the truest to the source caps that I am able to offer (doing proper HDR caps appears to be another science on its own.). There may still be crush due to the 8 bit conversion though (I for one didn't figure out a way to grab 10 bit yet).tl/tr: The UHD is botched at any rate imo. I mean, I'm wondering if we're seeing different things because for me there's like zero debate. Even on the main menu for Galveston the UHD is practically broken.
The menu starts with a two-shot of Foster and Fanning dancing and on the UHD they're covered in shadow to the point it's hard to make out their faces and there's nothing around them, while on the BD you can see their entire faces and expressions (which are story critical) and you can see the red-lit bar area around them.In scenes like where Foster meets his partner in the opening I can't see his partner's face under the car at all, so when you see his partner later at the house you have zero idea who that is. I already mentioned the scene where he's holding the gun while the cops are outside, I can't see he's got it at all on the UHD. There are tons of examples like this and they're all story critical. If the HDR grade is intentional then it was done by someone who really screwed it up.That said, if I raise brightness to an insane degree a lot of that detail is there, so it's possible different tone-maps and whatnot are seeing different things. I might play around with it more later, using brightness/gamma settings and maybe the X800's SDR conversion, see what I see.
Quote:so it's possible different tone-maps and whatnot are seeing different things.the fact that I cannot watch it properly, don't consider it unwatchable and that the BD doesn't fully convince me either. It's just very, very dark.
Also no doubt about the black crush at all.All things considered, I think you're right and the movie isn't supposed to be that dark. But:dancing: If we're talking about the same scene (would've have to start my projector to look at the menu - EDIT: it's the one) I could see the faces/expressions in the dancing scene (near the end). Yes, they are very dark though.gun: I could also clearly see him playing with his gun on the table. But basically/properly only every time the light of the police cars hits the table.partner: I also knew who the other guy was resp. That it was his partner - they leave the car together for ex IIRC. I had no idea who the other (2?) guys in the house were though.
I'd have to check the BD for the face under car thing, but I'm sure you're right.I just didn't feel like I was missing anything critical.I actually found 'Ghost In The Shell' to be more unwatchable in certain scenes than Galveston. And I've been told that one isn't dark at all when viewed properly. So maybe you can understand where I am coming from. I'm really not 'debating', I'm just careful, because I have to be.
You'd have to debate with the guy that wrote this HDR review. Final comment on Galveston: I just gave both the UHD and the BD a spin via projector again (the latter for the first time), compared some scenes properly and I agree that the UHD is botched in general, if it looks like that in HDR as well (which I assume) - it's not only the black crush, it is way too dark in general which really becomes rather obvious when watching the BD.So I was wrong reg. The dark look.I also have to adjust my 'poison EDIT' though: It is pick your poison. I spotted terrible banding in places where I wouldn't really expect it and awful compression on top of it.
I lied and will end the year with one more Galveston comment.I did spot this oddity (black spots) when watching the UHD again earlier on (missed it when watching the movie):The BD has it as well (but extremely softened). Looks like a digital camera source issue to my eyes, affects several frames and happens at least twice.(Also, coming from the UHD (resp. Eyes being adopted), the BD still looks slightly milky to my eyes. But as I said before: The UHD is too dark.
Really no doubts here anymore.)PS: I'll pick a less complicated disc next (year) for sure. Yeah not really.
Fury isn't a great comparison because that really IS milky as. owing to how David Ayer does things, see also: Suicide Squad.
I can see what a good solid black level looks like with or without a comparison and those BD caps are nowhere near it. Same with the UHD's crush to be honest, I kinda wish I'd gotten there first just so's I could've called it out for the black crushed piece of shit that it clearly is, and then watch people like Velvet say 'it doesn't look like that to me!!'
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